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1900 Luger 21561 Manufacture Francaise Armes et Cycles - Saint Etienne

          

          

          

          

Featured are three unique French marked commercial Lugers, the first is a M1900 Old Model grip safety 30 Cal, 4¾-inch barrel BUG proofed Luger, serial number 21561, with an extremely rare roll-die in circular cartouche chamber crest Manufacture Française d'Armes & Cycles et Saint-Etienne. The second example is a near mint, circa 1909 manufacture M1906 short frame grip safety 30 Cal, C/N nitro proofed serial number 35495 with the more recognized, slightly different text combination of Manufacture Française d’ Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne single-line roll-die stamped 4¾-inch barrel. As a matter of note, serial number 35495 is the lowest short frame serial number observed with the lazy C/Nitro receiver proof, purportedly with the lazy C/N proof introduced circa 1912, starting in the 53000 serial number range.  

The third is a circa 1911-12 near the end of grip safety production, short frame M1906 grip safety 30 Cal, lazy C/N nitro proofed Luger, serial number 63848 with the same text Manufacture Française d’ Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne single-line roll die, except stamped on a rarer 4-inch 30 Cal barrel variation.

*◊ UNIQUE 1900 DWM LUGER WITH CHAMBER TOP ROLL-DIE MANUFRANCE FRENCH CARTOUCHE.

Auction description: SN 21561. 4¾-inch 7.65 mm Cal bbl with full serial number on bottom. Cartouche above chamber with “MANUFACTURE FRANÇAISE / ARMES ET CYCLES / SAINT ETIENNE” within concentric circles. DWM scroll on center toggle link. Dished toggles with toggle latch. “BUG” proofs on left receiver. All numbered parts on gun are matching. Checkered walnut grips. PROVENANCE: Collection of Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess.

The auction description is mostly accurate, except the condition, described as “Fine” is a stretch, with most of the strawed parts a dark patina. The description aside, the main feature of this M1900 Old Model Luger is the very strong and deep, roll-die applied chamber crest of a dual concentric circular design, depicting the French company MANUFACTURE FRANÇAISE • SAINT• ÉTIENNE ARMES ET CYCLES. This is the not the first example of this French company style, dual concentric, circular crest logo as a similar dual concentric logo is found stamped on an 1896 Manufrance made pistol rig and a brass medallion. However, it is the first such roll die example seen on a M1900 Old Model Luger until recently when a M1906 New Model restored example 28594 was identified with a basically identical chamber crest.[1] The only unusual feature of the logo, of both examples, is the inner circle phrase ARMES ET CYCLES which is usually preceded by the lower or upper case letter character d as in d’ARMES ET CYCLES is not present.

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The absence of a Germany export stamp suggest this (M1900 sn 21561) gun never left Europe, being purchased as a plain chamber BUG proofed commercial in approximately the 1903 – 1904 time-frame. Based on the serial number, this gun went to France by Manufrance (Manufacture Française d'Armes & Cycles et St Etienne) who, based on the low quality roll-die engraving used, more than likely, applied this one-of-a-kind chamber crest for the domestic French market before the French import company decided on the less expensive method of a single-line company name barrel stamping. Interestingly, only seen on later production, rather high serial numbers of New Model BUG proofed and lazy C/N nitro proofed commercial Lugers with one Old Model exception. It is interesting to note the different spelling or order of words in the barrel stampings vs. the subject chamber crest and the company logo.

Additionally, 21561 is the highest known or published serial number for an Old Model 120 mm (4¾-inch) barrel 30 Cal Luger, with identified circa 1902 carbines 21426 and 21605 on each side as documented per an LOB database and is supported per The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols © 2010 & 2011 by †Görtz/Sturgess, Volume II, Chapter 10 - Serial Numbers on page 599 which states that:  Most of the 21400 –22000 sn. block are carbines with long frames, preceded in the 21000 - 21400 range by normal 7.65/120 mm barrelled commercial pistols with US Presidential Seal or blank chamber, [BUG proofed commercials] intermixed with a small number having the Swiss Cross over the chamber.

Before delving into the Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne barrel marked Lugers, it has been determined that there are two variations of the stampings on Luger barrels, 4-inch and 4¾-inch lengths. The Variation 1 designation is somewhat crudely applied with the letters or characters varying in letter size and depth from example to example, with the “y” in “Cycles” being consistently, partially stamped with the lower portion missing or lightly stamped. Also, the dash in Saint-Etienne is more of a dot. If this typically encountered Variation 1 stamping is the result of a poorly made engraving is indeterminate.

The Variations

As stated above there are two variations of the Manufacture Franciase d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne Luger barrel marking, Variation 1 and Variation 2, both seem credible. There is no basis or evidence to say one is fake and the other is real.  There is also no basis or evidence to say that both are roll-die applications, done by either Manufrance or DWM or that either or both roll-die applications are correct, under-the-blue or through-the-blue. Pictured are both variations for comparison with individual views of variation 1 stamped under the blue and variation 2 stamped through the blue.

Manufrance accessories and especially French Luger associated accessories are scarce and difficult to come by. Pictured are a couple of accessories:

Pictured are various views of the three subject French marked Luger pistols with accessories.

It is tempting to say that the Variation 1 letter characters were individually stamped, however, there is too much commonality in the three Variation 1 examples. And finally, based on the serial numbers, there is no chronological consistency of manufacture vs. application, to determine the evolution of the 2 variations, which appear to be out of sequence or completely random. In summary, the only verifiable conclusions are, is that there are two distinct variations of font styles and lengths of inscriptions. 

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A loose association of commonality can be made with the crude Variation 1 barrel markings or font similarity and crudely made and applied Manufrance circular chamber crest logos of M1900 21561 and M1906 28594 that the roll-die used on both chamber crests was made by the same engraver.  Since the low quality, Variation 1 stamping was roll-die applied to the barrel, prior to blueing means/suggests it was done by DWM and that the higher quality, Variation 2 through-the-blue roll-die stamping was, purportedly applied by Manufrance. However, it is difficult to believe that DWM would be involved with the subpar, low quality work of the Variation 1 barrel markings.

The most important feature of Variation 1 is the length of the barrel inscription being 42mm vs. the longer 46mm barrel length inscription of Variation 2. Another reason for the variation 1 designation is that the crude application is similar to the equally crude method of application used with the roll-die in circular cartouche chamber crest cartouche on the receiver chamber of M1900 Luger 21561, suggesting the Variation 1 is the logical first version of the single-line barrel inscription, coincidently being the lesser encountered single-line barrel stamping.

The Variation 2 single-line barrel applied variation is the most frequently encountered and is consistently, professionally applied on most observed Luger examples, purportedly by Manufrance after receipt, as evident, being stamped over or through the rust blue barrel finish, resulting in some cases with some metal displacement and frosting appearance. All characters and words in the phrase are perfectly aligned and evenly stamped with the Variation 2 longer inscription length of 46mm.

Apparently, Manufrance as a retailer and manufacture of guns was quite capable of making roll-die engravings and applying them to weapons of their manufacture before and during 1900 – 1913 pre-WW1 Luger production. This includes holsters with the circular logo and pistols, revolvers and rifles with one and two-line Manufacture Franciase d’Armes & Cycles de Saint Etienne engravings on flat, curved and circular surfaces i.e., chamber surfaces (crests).

This mostly single-line Luger barrel inscription has been identified on other Manufrance items including some revolvers, knives and rifles. The above comments are supported in a descriptive and pictoral inventory or compilation of French Arms Manufacture of Saint Étienne.

As a matter of note the Luger barrel is the easiest part to apply an under-the-blue or aftermarket, through-the-blue stampings as the metal is not tempered, but relatively soft, deliberately made so as to allow for the slight expansion and contraction of the barrel resulting from the heat build-up encountered over repeated firings.

It is important to note that all Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne roll-die applied barrel stampings, that the letter characters lack any French language accent markings, which are found only on the unique circular Manufrance logos. There are many examples of the circular logos used on Manufrance products from the turn of the 20th century through 1910 on all manner of products from the GAULOIS PALM PISTOL and its’ carrying case to obscure items such as Wicker Baskets. It is not unusual then, that Manufrance (DWM) would initially select a variation of their circular logo to apply on select DWM Lugers as a sales promotion.

Pictured is a list of identified roll-die Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne barrel inscriptions by ascending serial numbers. Note the dispersal or wide range of serial numbers between examples, starting from Old Model serial number 1067 through New Model Luger serial number 63848, from 1900 to 1911. It is not unusual therefore, despite the very small 1.5 mm letter character font size and unique style, that in a decade long delivery time frame, to encounter slight variances in the through-the-blue barrel stampings, making it very difficult to challenge or determine authenticity of most observed examples.

Questions of the correctness of the phraseology or meaning of the words used in the Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne barrel stampings should be summarily dismissed as there is no ambiguity in the meaning of the marking, used by Manufrance in many catalogs, which unambiguously and unequivocally translates to French Manufacture of Arms and Cycles, with or without accent marks. Pictured is another list, showing a few Manufrance Lugers identified by serial number and their barrel stampings.

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*◊ RARE DWM 1906 COMMERCIAL LUGER PISTOL WITH “MANUFRANCE” ROLL DIE STAMPED BARREL.

Auction description: SN 63848. 30 Cal 4″ bbl with “Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de Saint-Etienne” roll die impressed on top, and full SN below Crown/N proof on bottom of barrel. DWM scroll on center toggle link. Horizontal Crown/N proofs on left receiver and toggle assembly. Grip safety. Numbered parts are matching, including the checkered walnut grips. Proper plain wood bottom magazine. This gun is featured on page 274 of The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols by †Joachim Görtz & Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess. PROVENANCE: Collection of Dr. Geoffrey CONDITION: Very fine, retaining 95% blue with some pitting on frame above right grip. 50% straw with scattered corrosion. Grips are oil soaked dark and lightly worn. Bore is bright and sharp. Magazine body is corroded and there is a little wear on the wood bottom. Mechanics are fine.

In Pistole Parabellum, ©2010, volume I, chapter 12, page 256 New Model Parabellum Retailed by Manufrance states: The New Model Parabellum was imported into France by Manufrance (Manufacture Francaise d’Armes & Cycles de St. Etienne) from approximately 1907 through 1913 but it was expensive and a slow seller. Manufrance marked the barrels with their full name, seemingly themselves, as their roll-die stamped name is impressed through the blueing. New Model Parabellums retailed by Manufrance bore standard German crown/BUG or crown N proof marks, and retained the standard German Geladen marking on the extractor.

Per The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols ©2010 & 2011 by †Görtz/Sturgess, Volume II, Chapter 3 – Development of the Parabellum Pistol, page 274 the information was modified/reworded, specifically absent is the 1907 – 1913 import time frame: The Parabellum was imported to France by Manufrance (Manufacture Française d'Armes & Cycles de St Etienne), but was expensive and a slow seller. Manufrance marked the barrels with their full name, seemingly themselves, as their roll-die stamped name is impressed through the blueing of their Parabellums, which bore standard German crown/BUG or crown/N proof marks, and the identical marking is also found on other imports, such as the Mauser C96 retailed by them.

Pictured in both †Görtz/Sturgess publications is a New Model 9mm serial number 47549 example with a caption stating the forward gripstrap toe 5680 stamped representing an inventory or registration number. There are two other  published Manufrance barrel stamped Parabellums with an added registration or inventory number, being serial numbers 45425 with toe number 2209 and 47601 with toe number 115. Serial number 51544 was the highest known published French barrel roll-die barrel stamped New Model Luger until the identity of 63848, which is the highest documented under-the-blue marked example.

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In Lugers at Random ©1969 by †Charles Kenyon Jr. pictures on page 107 a cased, BUG proofed French marked commercial, serial number 51554. On the opposite page 106 the variation is described in GENERAL NOTES: Manufactured by DWM for commercial sales to the French firm “Arms & Cycle Works” of Saint-Etienne, France. Apparently, this variation was the result of an express order as the pistol was STAMPED with the inscription of these French firm PRIOR to finishing. These “French Commercials” complete with fitted case and instruction manual in FRENCH. A most unusual and rare variation. The case and accompanying manual enhances its value.

Based on the detailed †Kenyon description, one assumes he personally examined the pistol, which clearly has a Variation 2 barrel, 46mm length inscription, to come to the conclusion that the barrel was stamped under-the-blue by DWM with the inscription of the French firm, prior to finishing,[2] strongly suggesting that DWM had made a Variation 2 roll-die engraving specifically for this effort. Whereas, Sturgess in both the Pistole Parabellum and The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistol book publications states that: Manufrance marked the barrel with their full name, seemingly themselves, as their roll-die stamped name is impressed through-the-bluing

Assuming that DWM did indeed make a Variation 2 roll-die engraving, a relatively expensive effort for a one-time application, as it appears it is, seems implausible, therefore one would expect to encounter other New Model Luger Variation 2, under-the-blue 4¾-inch barrel roll-die Manufrance examples. Since the subject †Kenyon example is a New Model, serial number 51544 and that some New Model 4¾-inch 30 Cal barrel Lugers with lower serial numbers than 51554 have been observed with Manufrance through-the-blue barrel inscriptions being 35495[3].

It is curious that while 21561 was part of the Sturgess collection as indicated in the auction description, yet no pictures or mention is given to the subject Old Model Parabellum with its very rare and unique chamber crest, despite his acknowledgement of the French company and marketing relationship to DWM and the Parabellum and its well-recognized Luger barrel stamping in his two publications, Pistole Parabellum or The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols. It is possible, but unlikely, that 21561 was acquired by Sturgess too late for inclusion in the later 2010 – 2011 publication.

TBLAP V1, Chapter 3, page 274. The Parabellum was imported to France by Manufrance (Manufacture Française d'Armes & Cycles de St Étienne), but was expensive and a slow seller. Manufrance marked the barrels with their full name, seemingly themselves, as their roll die stamped name is impressed through the blueing of their Parabellums, which bore standard German crown/BUG or crown/N proof marks. However, the New Model pistols they sold retained the standard German GELADEN marking of the extractor.

Luger Forum member comment: Any commercial Luger marked Manufacture Francaise d'Armes & Cycles de St Etienne, not between approx. sn 36700 and sn 58400, should be considered suspicious (any within this range without a toe number should be considered inauthentic).

Some collectors feel that both barrel variation inscriptions shouldn’t exist simply because: 1) it is not listed or described in the Manufrance company catalogs or those that do believe that the variation(s) does exist, 2) insist that to be authentic it has to be in a specific serial number range (36xxx to 58xxx) and in that range to be valid, 3) should have a toe number.

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Featured above is an interesting Rock Island Auction video of the history of Manufacture Française d'Armes l& Cycles de St. Étienne barrel inscribed pre-WW1 Lugers. Per the video narrated by Ian McCollum of the Forgotten Weapons video series, features a M1906 commercial 9mm Luger serial number 47492 with a Variation 1 barrel inscription. In the video McCullum states per Manufrance personal sales records made available to him, that the French barrel inscribed Lugers were introduced in 1909 with the firsts sales in 1910, being sold up to and into the first years of WW1. The serial number range cited was from the high 40,000 serial number range to the low 50,000 serial number range with a total of about 263 Lugers total, approximately 50% 30 Cal, 50% 9mm.  The number total seems about right, but the range is too narrow with many Manufrance New Model Lugers identified below and above the cited 28594 – 63848 serial number range.

There are several Luger pistol variations with a company roll-die barrel inscription including American companies Abercrombie & Fitch, New York, Made in Switzerland, J.L. Galef, New York, A.F. Stoeger, Inc. (frame and receiver inscriptions), foreign firms J. Canedo – 611 Rivadavia, 611 – Bs Aires, Charles Lancaster – London S.W., F. Mayor Fils – Lausanne – Montreux, Manton & Co. Calcutta India. None of the cited companies describe or mention their advertised Lugers with barrel inscriptions, even the well-known and numerous Abercrombie & Fitch catalogs. The only exception being A.F. Stoeger catalogs, which do mention and picture in their Luger ads, the side frame inscriptions, due mainly for their large 1920s contract with DWM and their Luger name patents.

MANUFACTURE FRANÇIASE Catalogs

The Manufrance catalogs are a rarely encountered, desirable collectible in of themselves, especially the massive 1914 catalog with 1200 pages, with many in color. The 1914 MANUFACTURE FRANÇAISE • SAINT•ÉTIENNE catalog cover is pictured herein with a New Model Luger placed on the cover. Inside the manual on page 169 is an ad for a New Model Luger or Parabellum, offered in 30 Cal and 9mm along with associated ammunition and also on page 169 is an item 1278 ad for a full cover flap holster with front attached single magazine pouch for a Luger with the cover flap secured to the holster body by a metal twist turn catch. The mostly identical holster, although probably different leather maker, is offered in the 1913 catalog as item 1312 except with a cover flap and slit leather up-strap closure [4]. The 1912 catalog offered Parabellum 30 Cal, item 304 and 9mm ammunition, item 306 in packaged boxes of 25 cartridges.

There were other period French weapons manufacturers who offered the Parabellum pistol in their catalogs. Pictured is the 1909 catalog cover page of one such company, MANUFACTURE D’ARMES VERNEY-CARRON FRÈRES S.t ÉTÍENNE < LOIRE > and the page 80 Parabellum ad, possibly with a Verney-Carron Freres St. Etienne barrel stamping. Interestingly, page 80 also offers as item No 5987. – CARABINE “PARABELLUM”, cal. 7,65, arme des trés grande précision, (weapon of great precision) avec crosse démontable, poids 1700 grammes…230 fr. with the tantalizing possibility of a Verney-Carron Freres St. Etienne Luger Carbine barrel stamping.

Shown are several Manufrance catalog cover subjects:

 
TBLAP, V3, pp
Rules of Proof 1911/12
DWM Commercial Proofing 1912 - 16

The German proof law was revised and updated finally properly to acknowledge the existence of nitro powders by the introduction of new Rules of Proof, initially implemented at the Zella-Mehlis proof-house on September 1, 1911 and by the Suhl house and its branches in April, 1912. This brought into use a simple crown/N mark for nitro proof, which had been completely neglected in the 1893 Rules of Proof to the 1891 Law. This mark was applied within DWM's facility to the same components and in the same locations as the BUG proof generally from about serial number 53,000, but overlapping with crown/BUG proofed guns from the 49, xxx range, which corresponds to 1911/12. This indicates non-chronological serial numbering or non-sequential assembly and proof, since it is impossible to imagine that crown/BUG proof marks would have been applied by the proof house after the adoption of the new Rules of Proof and the crown/N mark. At the same time the practice of marking the barrel with the calibre according to the 1891gauge tables was dropped on commercial pistols…
 

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The simplified nitro proof crown/N was placed initially on DWM guns horizontally, crown to muzzle, on the left receiver, underneath and along the axis of the barrel and horizontally, crown to muzzle, on the left sides of the bolt and front link of the action. This continued until the end of commercial production in WWI, as evidenced by pistols so proofed with the horizontal crown/N on the receiver, but with original modified sear bars, introduced in production only in 1916. It was very probably when commercial production recommenced at DWM after WWI in 1919 that the orientation of the receiver proof was changed to the vertical whilst the other marks were unchanged, though application to the breech block and link became erratic.
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Model 1906 Commercial "Fleur de Lis" Luger


 
FRANCE - This unusual variation was produced in 1906 at the very beginning of the “New Model” production. The unique marking – A Fleur de Lis with St. Etienne banner – was likely a marketing tool targeted at the French retailer, “Manufacture Francaise d’ Armes & Cycles de Saint Etienne,” whose name is inscribed on the barrel of the weapon. The “American Eagle” Lugers had proven successful in the United States market and this weapon may have been an attempt by DWM to encourage this large French arms dealer to tap into French nationalism in a similar way.
    This pistol also bears the word “CHARGE/” on the New Model extractor, further indicating that the alterations were made at the factory level.
    While other pistols have been noted to carry the retailer’s name on their barrels, this is the only specimen examined by the author to date which is endowed with the Fleur de Lis monogram over the chamber area.
    This is truly a unique example from the golden age of DWM Commercial production.



[1] This New Model restored Luger was formally of the †John H. Siroonian collection who was noted to have had restored many Lugers in his collection, whether they needed it or not, with little consideration to the normally higher value of original condition, especially to rare examples. It is, therefore, most likely the subject, aftermarket cased, M1906 French chamber crested Luger 28594, prior to restoration was in reasonable condition, similar to the original, unrestored M1900 French chamber crested Luger 21561.

[2] Based on the poor quality and resolution black and white picture, it is difficult determine if the Variation 2 barrel inscription is stamped under or through-the-blue, being especially difficult to determine, since it appears that the stamping is white-filled. Additionally, without further information, the fact that 51554 is in a period case does not necessarily imbue “Presentation” status as the period box and accruements could have simply been purchased separately from the pistol.

[3] Luger Tips, Revised Edition by Michael Reese II.

[4] TBLAP Volume III Chapter 19 – Accessories, Figure 19-20 †Joachim Görtz & Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess.

 

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